On this episode of The Deepest Cut, producer and songwriter Ben Shive reflects on the story behind Bright Sadness, a poignant co-write with Jill Phillips from her 2021 album Deeper Into Love. Written in the wake of a diagnosis and personal crisis, the song became a way for Ben to hold grief and grace in the same breath. Ben shares how songwriting helps him give shape to sorrow, not as a place to process pain, but as the work that begins after. This is a conversation about paradox, precision, and the quiet strength of hope.

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