In a collaboration of two podcasts WTGGT x Between The Guidelines with Ben Wright bring you an epic episode. Ben happens to be not only Sean's friend but also his brother in-law and fellow podcaster. Stream now to hear two friends cover topics such as the parallels between ultra-running and rock climbing, outdoor recreation and professional guiding, as well as mental health issues in the outdoor recreation community.

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Thanks for listening #mothertoughers