In this episode of Alec Mapa: Hot Mess with Matthew Dempsey psychotherapist, Alec and Matt have a revealing and intimate conversation with creator and star of The Jinkx and DeLa Holiday Special and star of RuPaul’s Drag Race Season 6 and RuPaul’s Drag Race All Stars Season 3, BenDeLaCreme. Alec opens up about how his “cracking up” led him to become the person he is today and Matt shares he’s been feeling down and isolated over the last year. The two talk about dealing with sadness and working to reframe difficult emotions and experiences in order to deal with them more effectively.

BenDeLaCreme talks openly about his struggles growing up-the unrelenting grief he felt after his mom died at age 13, his distant relationship with his father, the

pain of being bullied and beaten-up for being overweight and gay, and the depression and suicidal thoughts that he struggled with often. DeLa shares how she found drag at an early age and what the creation of DeLa means in her life and for her emotional well-being. DeLa shares her long and difficult journey to finally identifying the right mental health diagnosis and medication to treat her effectively.

Alec, Matt, and DeLa talk and laugh throughout the episode about their pain, struggles, the gift of therapy and the right medication, healing, and accepting and appreciating your whole complicated beautiful self.

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