Pwned: The Information Security Podcast

Benefits of a Security Certification & Equifax Security Breach


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A lot of companies

or agency executives are looking for a security certification or some kind of

assurance they can sleep well at night. 

Truth of the matter is no security firm would assert that their clients

are bullet proof from a cyber security breach. 

The threat landscape is shifting intraday and anything a security firm

would attest to today might be outdated by the time the team walks out of the

building.  In our industry today - there

is no certification that offers this level of warranty.  HITRUST, PCI-DSS, ISO27001, SOC Reports all

ensure that a process is in place not necessarily the rigor of the security

control in place and value of said control in the long run. The Knox Security

Certification, is the lone technical security certification but that also has

bounds to the warranty and very much requires that the company continue to

maintain the hygiene of their security posture as nothing in security is set it

and forget it.







Any potentially viable security certifications is in jeopardy because of this coupled with the fact there is so many people that misunderstand this concept.  Case in point is the Equifax security breach. If you don’t know Equifax, congratulations on making it out from under your rock and listening to this first.  Equifax is a large credit reporting bureau that holds credit and personal information for millions of people.  The breach, impacted over 140 million people…which to put that in perspective is also HALF the citizens in the US.







Here’s the thing,

Equifax has an ISO27001 certification. The certification was delivered by Ernst

and Young and their EY CertifyPoint division. Some folks, including those at

Equifax, seemed to think this certification shielded them from breach.  If you ever listened to any of my podcasts or

read anything I’ve written related to ISO27001, you know that ISO27001 simply

certifies you’ve followed a framework and methodology to choose security

controls—not whether those controls are right and complete security controls

for your environment.  To add one more,

scope is a big component of ISO27001 and just because someone has an ISO 27001

certification doesn’t mean it for the environment they say it is.  For example, some companies have an ISO27001

certification on their broom closet and say it’s for the whole company. 







The issue with this

Equifax situation is that E&Y, according to MarketWatch, issued an attest

opinion that all security controls were complete and in place, which later

could not be supported.  Aside from this

not being possible because it fails to acknowledge existance of the crystal

ball that predicts any and all zero day attacks, it’s also a conflict of

interest and violation of any accreditation rules.







To me this indicates

a huge lack of understanding OR purposeful negligence.







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Pwned: The Information Security PodcastBy Justin Fimlaid