In this episode of Bet on People, we sit down with Doug Krugman. 

Doug is a retired Marine infantry officer who led units in Iraq and Afghanistan, served as a foreign area officer across Southeast Asia, and spent his final assignment planning operations for 45,000 Marines on the West Coast focused on deterring Chinese aggression in the Pacific. In January 2025, he chose to retire rather than execute orders he believed were morally wrong and potentially illegal — and in October 2025, he published an OpEd about that decision that received national attention and landed him media spots across the country. He now serves as Senior Advisor to the Vet Voice Foundation, applying the same standard to himself that he held his Marines to.

In our conversation we talk about:

• The myths about military leadership
• Why we hold leaders to higher standards than incoming recruits
• How doing your job well means making yourself obsolete
• & so much moreConnect with Doug and Euda:

Doug Krugman on LinkedIn: linkedin.com/in/doug-krugman/

Doug Krugman on Substackhttps://substack.com/@dougkrugman

Vet Voice Foundation: https://vvfnd.org/

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