In this episode we welcome Niels Pflaeging as a guest.

Niels is a full-time management exorcist, and he takes his vocation very seriously. Apart from that, one can say that he has a very philosophical view when it comes to leadership, the world of work and organizations.

And he not only talks about leadership, future-proof and more humane organizational business models, but he also writes about them.

So first listen to this great episode and then grab one of Niels' bestselling books.