Beth and David Booram join me on the podcast this week. Beth was my very first podcast guest when Faith Conversations began, so it was wonderful to have her back and to have her husband and coauthor, David, join us.

The Boorams are the cofounders and directors of Fall Creek Abbey, an urban retreat center in Indianapolis, where they lead the School of Spiritual Direction and offer individual and group spiritual direction. Together they've authored When Faith Becomes Sight: Opening Your Eyes to God's Presence All Around You.