Poet (and Jonathan's cousin!) Beth Roberts is our first family-member podcast guest! We discuss hyperbole, poetic license, the raising of personal artistic standards, and Jonathan's struggle to balance artistic passion with the paranoia over inward wankery. Plus, Beth reads to us two poems: the new "Sober," and "Learning to Spell" from her 2001 book BRIEF MORAL HISTORY IN  BLUE.

Poet (and Jonathan's cousin!) Beth Roberts is our first family-member podcast guest! We discuss hyperbole, poetic license, the raising of personal artistic standards, and Jonathan's struggle to balance artistic passion with the paranoia over inward wankery. Plus, Beth reads to us two poems: the new "Sober," and "Learning to Spell" from her 2001 book BRIEF MORAL HISTORY IN BLUE.

Beth Roberts

Dr. Dawn Rundman is a developmental psychologist. Jonathan Rundman is a musician. They’re married. Join the Rundmans as they hang out with cool guests and talk about life in the creative arts.

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Beth Roberts

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