This week we share with you an episode from the Between Dreams podcast with Chris Ruggiero, who recently featured Jonah as a guest. 

Chris and Jonah have a lot in common as both have shifted from primarily being entertainers to now helping with production and advising other creators.

Chris is a legend with a history as a professional juggler and an eye like nobody else, producing a really great show. 

In this conversation they talk about how Jonah blended his business and magic training and why he chooses the guests he chooses to interview on Discourse in Magic.

To find out more about Between Dreams with Chris Ruggiero visit chrisruggiero.com/podcast

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