In this episode, Andrew and Mike press deeper into the dark night. Drawing on “hyperlinks” in the Bible between the book of Lamentations, the letter to the Corinthians, and the wilderness of Jesus’ temptation, they explore what it means to be a log thrown into the fire consumed so that love might be refined. Their conversation wrestles with surrender, endurance, and the paradox of active passivity: being carried more than striving, walking without sight, and trusting that in the process God is at work. 

Book II chapters 8-11

00:00 Introduction to The Dark Night Podcast

02:02 Scriptural Engagement and Reflections

12:03 Metaphors and Spiritual Insights

23:10 The Role of Passivity in Spiritual Growth

27:37 Engaging with Spiritual Formation

34:47 The Parables and Indirectness of God

39:02 Jesus' Journey and Temptation

46:26 Personal Reflections and Burnout

55:02 The State of the World and Final Thoughts 

Related Links

Dark Night Project: www.darknightlive.com

Nemr Institute: www.nemrinstitute.com