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I’m 37, have three kids, a mortgage, a PhD, and a whole therapy practice. Yet somehow, I’m still not grown enough to leave the house without explaining where I’m going. 😂

If you grew up in an immigrant household, you know adulthood doesn’t automatically come with independence!

In this hilarious, honest, and slightly controversial solo episode of Between Two Worlds with Dr. Phebe, we’re saying the things immigrant daughters have been thinking for years but wouldn’t dare say out loud.

From “talking back” to setting boundaries, disappointing our parents, and surviving the legendary “When I was your age…” lectures, we’re unpacking what it really means to grow up without betraying where you come from.

Because you can love your parents, honor their sacrifices, and still choose a different life.

🎧 Listen, laugh, and tell me: What’s something you can say now that would’ve gotten you in trouble growing up?

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You're the responsible one. The strong one. The one who knows better. But who takes care of the first daughter?

In many immigrant families, being the first daughter isn't just a birth order. It's an unpaid, lifelong position you never applied for.

In this episode of Between Two Worlds with Dr. Phebe, Dr. Phebe sits down with a fellow first daughter and therapist - Khadijah Layne, LMFT, to unpack the invisible expectations placed on eldest daughters, from becoming the family's second parent to learning that obedience, sacrifice, and silence are the ingredients for being a "good daughter."

But what happens when being obedient means abandoning yourself? When setting boundaries feels like disrespect? And when you've been taught that your blessings depend on how well you please everyone else?

Together, they explore the emotional cost of being the dependable daughter, the complicated relationship between cultural expectations and self-worth, and how these childhood roles follow us into adulthood, relationships, and motherhood.

Because maybe the greatest blessing isn't being the daughter everyone approves of. Maybe it's finally becoming the woman you were always meant to be.

If you've ever been called "so mature for your age" while quietly carrying everyone else's responsibilities, this episode is for you.

Learn more about Khadijah, who is Licensed Marriage & Family Therapist and a part of a group practice; Create a Mindful Moment LLC. 

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What happens when the person who is right for you isn't the person your family imagined for you?In this episode of Between Two Worlds with Dr. Phebe, Dr. Phebe sits down with psychologist Dr. Yuxin Sun for an honest conversation about intercultural marriage, family expectations, in-laws, and the complicated line between honoring your culture and choosing the life you actually want.

They chat about  the unspoken rules many immigrant children inherit about who makes a “good” spouse, what happens when two cultures enter one marriage, and how expectations around sacrifice, gender roles, family involvement, and obedience can follow us into our relationships. From navigating in-laws and cultural differences to emotional safety, boundaries, and deciding which traditions deserve to follow us into the next generation, this conversation is about more than marrying outside your culture. It's about learning that honoring where you come from doesn't have to mean letting it choose where you're going.

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Our parents spent years asking, “What will happen to my children?” But eventually, many of us start asking a different question: What will happen to my parents? In this episode of Between Two Worlds with Dr. Phebe, Dr. Phebe sits down with her own mother, Mama Ceci, for an honest conversation about aging, caregiving, cultural expectations, guilt, sacrifice, and the moment immigrant children begin becoming caregivers themselves. What do we actually owe our parents? Who becomes the “default child” when Mom or Dad needs help? And how do we care for the people who sacrificed for us without sacrificing ourselves? This one gets personal.

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To wrap up September and Suicide Prevention Awareness Month, Dr. Phebe puts on her therapist hat to talk about a topic that some of us have been avoiding. It might be us thinking it doesn’t affect us, or that we are too holy for it to impact us or people we love. Listen to learn about what signs to look out for and resources that are available in the community.

Suicide Prevention Hotlines:

• 988 (call/text)
• County Hotline (e.g. Pierce County Crisis Line - 800-576-7764)
• Warm Line - 877-500-9276
• Trans Life Line - 877-565-8860
• Veteran Crisis Line - text 838255

Find more resources at www.inclusivetherapists.com/crisis.

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In the spirit of the first day of school, Dr. Phebe and Mama Ceci are talking about their first day in America. One of them ended up on the floor of her bedroom. The other one, well you will have to tune in to find out! Remember to subscribe so you don't miss another episode!

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We couldn’t fit all of the conversation into one episode. So here’s the second part of the conversation about parenting. Listen in as we talk about our experiences about parenting, the differences and even more exciting, the ways in which we are similar! Remember to subscribe so you don't miss another episode!

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It’s obvious. Mama Ceci is the parent here. But there is another parent in the room too - Dr. Phebe! Parenting has changed over generations but one thing still remains. You are not about to go outside and disgrace the whole family! Listen in as we talk about our experiences about parenting, the differences and even more exciting, the ways in which we are similar! Remember to subscribe so you don't miss another episode!

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Our parents may not have said these words out loud but the sentiments were like loud saxophones in their questions, interactions, unsaid expectations and the like. On this episode, Dr. Phebe and Mama Ceci get into the realities of parental expectations and Mama Ceci answers the question as an African, immigrant parent. Stay tuned to hear her thoughts!

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Season One may be officially over but Dr. Phebe is not leaving you hanging! Enjoy these notes as she prepares for the upcoming season of the podcast. Have a topic you’d like covered in the upcoming season? Send an email to [email protected]!

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