In this episode, Halie & Jerek explore the essential relationship between nervous system healing & leadership development. Drawing from lived experience, somatic practice, & organizational insight, they unpack what it means to lead from an organized nervous system—where coherence, attunement, & agency take the place of burnout, reactivity, & self-abandonment.

They discuss the difference between regulation & attunement, how urgency is often a nervous system state (not just a scheduling issue), & how trauma patterns like fawning, freezing, or overachieving quietly impact how leaders show up. 

The conversation also touches on many other themes & practices including self-forgiveness, repairing our internal relationships, & the power of somatic spaciousness. 

This episode is a balm for visionary leaders seeking to evolve from urgency into embodied presence—offering insight, permission, & a powerful reminder that coherence begins within.

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 00:00– Opening breath practice & somatic centering
 05:00 – Marathon metaphors & being shaped by discomfort
 08:40 – What is organized nervous system intelligence?
 18:05 – How urgency is a nervous system state, not just a schedule issue
 27:18 – Authenticity & choice: the marks of a healthy nervous system
 41:27 – Self-repair & forgiveness as leadership rituals
 44:24 – Personal coherence practices: spiritual companions & sacred slowing
 52:00 – Normalizing the challenge of slowing down
 52:57 – Creating inner spaciousness, even in fast-paced environments