In this week’s episode of The Rising Podcast, Melanie Penn speaks with Joseph Yoo, an Episcopal priest known for his dynamic presence on TikTok and other social media platforms. Joseph and Melanie delve into the complexities of the resurrection and the often-overlooked period of Holy Saturday. Joseph emphasizes that it’s normal to have questions about faith, highlighting that certainty is the opposite of faith, not doubt. He also discusses the importance of acknowledging and processing mourning and grief, relating the disciples’ experiences after the crucifixion to everyday struggles. Joseph encourages us not just to believe in the resurrection as an event, but to consider the transformative power of a personal encounter with the risen Lord—and ask yourself, “Have you seen Him?” This is episode one with Joseph—in episode two, we’ll unravel the enigmatic role of Judas in Jesus’ crucifixion and its profound impact on the resurrection story.
Thought-Provoking Quotes:
“The Resurrection is what drives us as a religion. Without the resurrection, there is no Christianity.” - Joseph Yoo
“Doubt isn’t the opposite of faith. Certainty is. Once you’re certain about something, you don’t need faith because you have all the answers.” - Joseph Yoo
“[The disciples are mourning Jesus’ death] and they don’t know how to mourn because the mourning is so deep. And there’s so much richness in their mourning that we don’t talk about it at church because it makes everyone feel uncomfortable.” - Joseph Yoo
“I feel like there’s actual relatable experiences that the disciples felt that we feel as well two thousand odd years later. And I just don’t think that we allow people to explore it enough. The only time we talk about grief is like when there’s a memorial service at the church.” - Joseph Yoo
Links, Products, and Resources Mentioned In This Episode:
Mosaic Episcopal Church
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