In this episode of Fatality Free Future, John Barclay and Holly Ferguson talk with Alan Stevenson about why workers are still dying at work despite “high compliance” numbers. Using data from Safe Work Australia, they unpack the most common fatal risks such as driving, working at heights, falling objects, and moving equipment, and why workers over 45 are over‑represented. They then explore how traditional, checkbox-style verifications fall short, and how coaching, curiosity, and better questions can turn control checks into meaningful conversations that actually improve safety and prevent fatalities.

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