Anthropologist & TV presenter Alice Roberts talks to Jennifer & Matt  about what we can learn from historical pandemics about the changes they bring to society and what we can do now to prepare for a better future. She also shares with us her strategies for coping with the lock-down - including the sweet treats she relies on. The Beyond Covid podcast series is created by Compassion in Politics, the think tank that works to bring more compassion into public life, produced by Kitty Horlick & Alex Wilks for The Real Agenda Network, podcasts for political change. www.compassioninpolitics.com www.realagenda.org