I got to interview Revd Dr Antipas Harris, who works with T D Jakes as the dean of the new Jake's Divinity School, and authored of the just-published "Is Christianity the White Man's Religion?" We discussed his book and the connections with anti-racism in response to the murder of George Floyd.

I also asked for his advice on how churches, Christians and leaders can better respond to this cultural moment and opportunity. He has some superb advice. I hope you will take a listen.