Where does coaching end and counselling begin? In this reflective episode, we explore the space where the two meet, and the important differences between them. Moving beyond polished success stories, this conversation leans into the real, often messy, human side of change.

Together with special guest Jenny Campos, we discuss how both approaches can support mental health, identity, and meaningful life and career decisions. We explore when goals are useful, when emotions need deeper attention, and why supporting the whole person matters far more than simply optimising performance.