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Beyond Rip and Replace: Alternatives for Modernizing Core Banking


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As real-time payments expand globally, financial institutions confront the challenge of modernizing their legacy systems to meet the digital expectations of their customers. The positive aspect is that there’s no need to overhaul core systems. Instead, modern software can relieve core banking systems from real-time demands.



During a recent PaymentsJournal podcast, Carlos Netto, Co-Founder and CEO of Matera, and Elisa Tavilla, Director of Debit Payments at Javelin Strategy & Research, delve into the success of Brazil’s Pix and what U.S FIs can glean from other countries that have successfully ramped up their instant payment efforts.


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The Unexpected Impact of Pix



Pix, Brazil’s instant payments system, has enjoyed remarkable success since its November 2020 launch. That’s attributed to several factors. For one, certain financial institutions were mandated by the central bank to participate, and the regulator played a role in developing the system’s technical aspects. This ensured uniform standards, encouraging widespread adoption.  Pix’s free availability to all users also differentiated it from traditional banks, which typically restricted fund transfers to business hours.



“Pix is used by people to send money to friends, pay in stores, or by reading a QR code,” Netto said. “It’s not only a rail but also a way to move money from one bank account to another bank account.



“Pix and related technology enable every use case. We have QR codes so consumers can pay businesses instantly. We have the directory so we can send money to our friends. And there’s a standard UI so every bank providing Pix has to offer it in the same way so it’s easy for everyone to use. It enabled Pix to grow fast. Faster than we were expecting. It moved from zero to five billion monthly transactions in three years.”



The surge in transactions due to Pix has had a significant impact on core banking systems. With transactions moving directly between demand deposit accounts (DDA) without intermediaries, traditional core banking systems were not equipped to handle such high volumes.



This has led to Matera’s latest challenge, developing a core banking system that can handle a high volume of transactions brought about by Pix’s success.



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