What does “balance” really look like over the course of a long career?

In this episode of Beyond the Balance, host Miller sits down with Bruce Groce, a recently retired tech leader who spent 32 years at SAS, rising through the ranks while navigating the realities of work, family, leadership, and personal fulfillment.

Bruce shares candid reflections on what it means to be the kind of employee who “takes the hill” and the personal cost that can come with it. Together, they explore the evolution of work across generations, the pressure to always be “on,” the importance of patience and perspective, and how to draw boundaries before work begins to crowd out what matters most.

The conversation also touches on the rise of technology and AI, what’s gained (and lost) as innovation accelerates, and why human judgment, relationships, and balance still matter perhaps more than ever.

This is a thoughtful, honest discussion for professionals at any stage of their career who are trying to build a meaningful life, not just a successful résumé.