EnvironMental Podcast is about the intersection of business and sustainability.

In this special cross-over episode, aub and James Gill, co-founder of EcoSend, interview each other about making email a force for good, the surprising climate impact of our digital lives, and the importance of storytelling in sustainable business.

Join us to deep dive into how technology's physical footprint impacts the planet, why greenhushing is more insidious than greenwashing, and the shared mission of tipping the scales towards a more sustainable future.

Find EcoSend:

Website: ecosend.io

Jame's LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jamesjgill/

See all of our guests:

https://dandelionbranding.com/environmental-podcast/

The MIt article James mentioned: https://news.mit.edu/2025/explained-generative-ai-environmental-impact-0117

⌛⌛TIMESTAMPS

04:14: Aub's journey into Earth stewardship & James's "aha moment"

10:43: The number one thing to know about the digital world's physical reality (data centers!).

12:21: Discussing the climate impact and ethical challenges of AI usage.

16:05: Why sustainable businesses are held to a higher standard and face unique challenges.

21:02: James's hope from movements like B Corp.

21:58: Our roles in sustainability

27:38: The insidious issue of greenhushing and why we must fight it.

39:46: Optimistic outlook for technology's role in a sustainable future.

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