"If you don't understand the struggle, you'll never understand the success." — Simon Madden. 

This week I sat down with one of my childhood heroes. Simon Madden played 378 games for Essendon, won two premierships, a Norm Smith Medal, and four Best and Fairests — and almost none of this conversation is about that. 
In this episode: 

• Why "overnight success" is the most misleading phrase in sport 
• Being called "two yards of pump water" at 16, and what Simon did about it 
• Getting sacked as captain at 23 and ending up on the interchange bench in the seconds and the question that turned it around
• Confidence, conviction, courage: Simon's framework for what he calls "a whole performance" 
• Losing his dad at 13, and what his mother taught him about just continuing 
• Ubuntu — "I am because we are" — and the philosophy that runs through everything Simon believes about teams 

The line I'm carrying out of this one: it's not what happens to you. It's how you respond to it.

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Simon Madden is an AFL Hall of Fame inductee and former Essendon captain who now works with businesses, schools and charities on leadership, culture and performance.
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The Unknown Path is a podcast about the unseen journeys behind success — the failures, turning points, and quiet moments that shape lives we admire from the outside.
Website: theunknownpathpodcast.com
Instagram: @jemfuller