Kyran O’Donnell is a proud Barkindji man with a powerful and deeply human story.

Many people know Kyran through  The Brother Boys where humour, brotherhood and positivity have helped him build a community of millions online.

But beneath the comedy is a much deeper journey.

In this episode of Beyond Turning Points, Kyran speaks openly about being removed from family as a child, violence, resilience, identity, survival and the moment he began reconnecting to country and to himself.

What unfolds is not just a conversation about Indigenous Australia.

It becomes a conversation about listening.

Listening to country.

Listening to yourself.

Listening beyond the noise of modern life.

At one point, Kyran shares:

“I thought I knew who I was until I started listening again.”

Together, Ash and Kyran explore:

• Barkindji country and the significance of the Darling River
• Growing up during the 90s and early 2000s in Australia
• Being removed from his family
• Colonisation and the disconnection many people experience from themselves and the land
• Violence, masculinity and the search for identity
• The warrior spirit within Aboriginal culture
• Nature, intuition and connection to country
• Spiritual experiences and inner knowing
• Why many Australians are beginning to reconnect with country in a deeper way
• Social media, leadership and using platforms to create unity and understanding

This is a yarn about identity, country, healing and what can happen when people begin listening differently to life.

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Beyond Turning Points explores the pivotal moments that change us and the deeper understanding that can emerge afterwards.

There comes a moment where the life that once protected you starts to feel too small.

This week on Beyond Turning Points, Ash sits down with Manal Waugh, author of Lucid Dreams: Waking Up to What You Truly Are, former teacher, creative director and founder of an internationally recognised bridal label featured in Vogue.

What makes Manal’s story interesting is not just the range of worlds she’s moved through, but her understanding of what it takes to outgrow identities that once felt safe.

She grew up in a community where expectations around behaviour, belonging and who you could be were deeply ingrained into the culture. Later, even through successful careers and creative pursuits, she kept encountering the same deeper feeling:

“There has to be more to life than this.”

In this conversation, Ash and Manal explore what happens when the version of you that once helped you belong, succeed or stay safe begins to feel exhausting to maintain.

Together, they speak about:

• growing up inside strong cultural expectations
• leaving teaching after deep misalignment with the system
• building a successful fashion brand without formal training
• identity as something we can outgrow
• why freedom can feel confronting
• inherited templates around who we’re supposed to be
• creativity, ego and awakening
• the tension between safety and aliveness

At one point in the episode, Manal says:

“Freedom feels terrifying because it asks you to let go of the version of yourself that once kept you safe.”

This conversation is thoughtful, honest, funny in parts and deeply human. It’s for anyone who has ever felt the tension between the life they’ve built and the life quietly trying to emerge underneath it.

Website: https://www.manalwaugh.com/
Book: Lucid Dreams: Waking Up to What You Truly Are https://www.amazon.com.au/Lucid-Dreams-Waking-What-Truly-ebook/dp/B0FS75XP7S

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Beyond Turning Points is a podcast about the moments that change us and the deeper understanding that can emerge when we stop resisting who we’re becoming.

The Four Stages of Heart-Led Leadership and the Hidden Patterns Behind Burnout, Self-Doubt and Growth

Why does leadership feel harder the moment you start doing it for real?

• The Four Stages of Heart-Led Leadership and how they actually play out
• Why 40–50% of new leaders struggle early
• The hidden shadow patterns that lead to burnout, doubt, and withdrawal
• How to identify which stage you’re currently in
• Why returning to earlier stages is recalibration, not failure

In this episode of Beyond Turning Points, Ash Perrow breaks down a practical framework for understanding what it really means to lead from the heart.

While heart-led leadership is often idealised, the reality is that it can feel challenging as you grow. This episode explores both the qualities and the shadow aspects of leadership so you can navigate the process with more clarity and sustainability.

Self-awareness, inner alignment, emotional presence, and reconnecting to your values and vision.

Natural influence where others feel your leadership before you claim it.

Growth under pressure, where you lead while learning and build capacity in real time.

Sustainable leadership with greater ease, trust, and systems that support your growth.

• Leadership is non-linear and dynamic
• Each stage has both strengths and shadow aspects
• Burnout often reflects a lack of support, not a lack of capability
• Returning to earlier stages is recalibration, not failure
• You are expanding your capacity to lead, not becoming a leader

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The more visible you become, the more exposed you can feel.

There’s a moment when you feel called to be seen… and something pulls you back.

Why does that happen?

In this solo episode of Beyond Turning Points, Ash Perrow explores the tension between leading from your heart and the deep, primal need to belong.

If you’ve ever started showing up more… only to hesitate, overthink, or retreat after criticism, self-doubt, or fear of being judged arises, this conversation will help you understand what’s really happening beneath the surface... and how to move through it with strength.

In this episode:

• Why your nervous system prioritises belonging over visibility
• The real reason criticism can stop your momentum
• The difference between sensitivity and taking things personally
• How criticism can guide you back to your inner power
• A simple daily practice to rebuild self-trust

Everything comes back to this:

Your inner power isn’t defined by what others think.
It’s revealed by how you respond.

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Beyond Turning Points is a podcast about the moments that shape us… and the choices that follow.

Ever felt like you don’t quite belong in the world you were given?

• why feeling different may be the beginning of a deeper path
• how curiosity can soften self-judgment and reconnect you to yourself
• what a shamanic path can look like in real, everyday life

There comes a moment where the life you built stops feeling like yours.

You’ve done what you were told would bring fulfilment.

And yet… something is missing.

In this conversation, Heather Leighton shares the moment she realised that “having it all” still left her feeling empty, and how that became the doorway into a deeper path of self-discovery, shamanism, and reconnecting with nature.

This is a conversation about feeling different, trusting that feeling, and finding your own way.

Website: www.heathermayleighton.com

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Book: From 3D Survival to 5D Sovereignty (Amazon)

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Shamanism

Spiritual awakening

Feeling different

Intuition and self-trust

Reconnecting with nature

Personal transformation

Identity and purpose

Vision quest and Mongolia

Ancient wisdom in modern life

This episode explores what happens when you realise you don’t fit into the life you were given. Heather Leighton shares her journey into shamanism, spiritual awakening, and reconnecting with nature, offering a grounded perspective on intuition, identity, and finding meaning beyond conventional success.

Music, spiritual awakening and the journey of rediscovering who you truly are

What happens when the life you built stops working?

In this conversation with singer songwriter and sound healer Nicky Convine, we explore what it looks like when identity collapses, life shifts direction and music becomes the pathway back to yourself.

• How losing the identity you built can become the doorway to rediscovering your true self
• Why voice, music and sound can become powerful tools for healing and transformation
• How creative expression can reconnect you with purpose, wholeness and inner guidance

Sometimes life reaches a point where the structures we’ve built no longer feel true. The roles, expectations and identities that once gave us direction begin to feel empty or exhausting.

For some people that moment becomes a crisis.

For others it becomes the beginning of awakening.

Nicky shares the journey that led her from seeking validation externally to rediscovering herself through music, voice and inner guidance.

I invited Nicky onto the podcast not only because of her extraordinary voice and creative gifts, but because I’ve had the privilege of witnessing parts of her journey firsthand.

Over the years we’ve written songs together, performed together and shared many adventures as friends. I’ve seen how her relationship with music has evolved into something much deeper than performance.

For Nicky, music became the pathway back to herself.

• The story behind the song I Was Lost and the life changes surrounding it
• Feeling externally successful while internally unfulfilled
• The turning point that changed the direction of her life
• Working with a coach and entering a period of deep inner transformation
• Music as a lifeline during identity collapse
• Letting go of external validation and rediscovering authenticity
• Identity fluidity and the freedom to evolve beyond who you once were
• Voice and sound as tools for healing and alignment
• Social media comparison and the trap of upward comparison bias
• Moving from scarcity and comparison into support and abundance

“What happens when you take everything away… what is left?”

“The voice is your own inbuilt tuning fork.”

“You don’t need to compare yourself to anyone.”

Website

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“I Was Lost” – Brothers Calling ft. Nicky Convine

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Beyond Turning Points explores the pivotal moments that reshape our lives and the deeper wisdom that emerges when we learn to listen.

Healing after abuse, spiritual awakening and near-death experiences with the host of The Returned Podcast.

What if the hardest parts of your life were also guiding you toward your purpose?

• Why healing often begins when we stop running from the past

• How near-death experiences can reshape the way we see life and purpose

• Why building genuine community may be one of the most important things we can do in the modern world

What happens when life breaks you open, and instead of shutting down, you begin to return to yourself?

In this conversation, I’m joined by MJ, host of The Returned Podcast, for a heartfelt exploration of healing, courage, creativity and what it means to keep showing up for the life that’s calling you.

I first met MJ a few weeks ago when I appeared on her podcast. I was immediately struck by the calm, thoughtful way she holds space for deep conversations about spirituality, life experiences and the profound moments that reshape us.

MJ shares openly about:

• surviving abuse
• navigating anxiety and panic
• learning to leave unhealthy relationships
• the long inner journey of taking off the masks she once needed to survive

We also talk about near-death experiences, intuition, synchronicity, purpose, community and the vulnerable process of creating something meaningful before you feel fully ready.

This is a conversation about trust.

Trusting the timing.

Trusting the path.

Trusting that even after everything, you can still begin again.

• How courage often begins with simply showing up before you feel ready

• MJ’s journey through childhood abuse, unhealthy relationships and deep inner healing

• The role of intuition, synchronicity and spiritual guidance in shaping a new path

• Why creativity can become a form of meditation and self-return

• The difference between building an audience and building a true community

• How healing unfolds over time through practice, patience and repeated choice

• The spiritual insights that emerged after MJ’s near-death experience

• The surprising ways purpose can appear later in life when we least expect it

MJ brings honesty, courage and deep reflection to this conversation as she shares the experiences that led her to create The Returned Podcast and begin building a community for people exploring spirituality, healing and life beyond the ordinary.

You can learn more about MJ and her work here:

• YouTube channel: https://www.youtube.com/@thereturnedones

• Website, resources and products: https://beacons.ai/thereturnedpodcast

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“I was living for this version of myself that didn’t even fit who I am.” Ryan Olexson

In this conversation, I sit down with Ryan Olexson - a counselling student, personal trainer and podcast host based in Texas - to explore what it really means to live in alignment with your inner truth.

We talk about navigating depression, shifting from corporate life, healing through movement, plant medicines and the choice to live from the heart.

Ryan brings a beautiful blend of science, intuition and lived experience, and shares the turning points that changed her life from the inside out.

We also explore:

• Emotion-based strength training and interoception

• Postpartum depression, shame and healing through plant medicine

• Childhood conditioning, perfectionism and identity loss

• Insights from Ayahuasca and how plant medicines expand self-awareness

• How somatic awareness rewires emotional regulation

• Living with purpose, family alignment and generational healing

• Reclaiming joy, imagination and inner voice

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Ryan’s Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/beyond80percent

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“When I’m on stage, I just want people to feel like they can take their armour off. Like maybe there’s nothing wrong here after all.” – Trilla

This conversation touches everything — voice, grief, healing, truth and coming home.

In this episode of Beyond Turning Points, I sit down with dear friend and gifted artist Trilla for a deep and honest exploration of creativity, sound and self-connection. We talk about her journey through chronic pain, emotional numbness, and personal transformation, and how music has been both her medicine and her mirror.

We also explore:

•Slowing down as a spiritual and nervous system practice

•Singing as a portal to presence and resonance

•Trauma, sobriety and the courage to face yourself

•The role of ceremony, plant medicine and post-ceremonial integration

•Building community through choirs, mentoring and sacred spaces

•The power of leading with vulnerability — even on stage

To get in touch with Trilla or listen to her music:

https://trilla.au/

https://www.instagram.com/trilla_sol

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This episode is very close to my heart.

“If you asked how much connection currency I have in the bank… I’m loaded.”  Ryan

In this episode of Beyond Turning Points, I sit down with one of my dearest friends and creative collaborators Ryan Gittoes. We’ve shared hundreds of adventures, gigs and soul-searching conversations and this episode captures the essence of all of it.

Ryan speaks candidly about a pivotal moment in his early 20s, standing on a job site as a fourth-generation plumber and asking himself:
“Is this why I’m here?”

The answer was no.

We dive into:
 • The leap from plumbing to music and the courage to follow a calling
 • The magic and mayhem of early share house days
 • Building and the imminent closing of his creative studio on Tamborine Mountain
 • His powerful work with people of “unique abilities” and why that language matters
 • Creativity, presence and staying human in an AI-saturated world

Ryan is honest about being in the rapids right now – letting go of something he built with love, facing uncertainty and still choosing to back himself. 

This conversation is for the conscious creatives, the empaths and the adventurers who are navigating their own wild waters.

Would love to hear any thoughts or insights in the comments.

Warmly
Ash 💙
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