Working with Case 65 of the Blue Cliff Record, "A non-Buddhist questions the Buddha," Shiro leads the sangha in a discussion of words and no words, is and is not, and the technology of Zen. How do we go beyond what we know, beyond our own imagining event, to see a new way forward for ourselves, our families, communities and world? Sangha members discuss quantum physics, art, music, Dogen, intimacy, boundaries, the equations and assumptions that can dominate our being, and look at how to penetrate our known way of being to see the true self. "What about the one who goes beyond?"