Dr Koontz and Rev Fisk follow up their series on collapse by discussing the rebuilding of civilization. In this episode they look at Emperor Justinian, the situations he dealt with as he came into power, and his efforts to rebuild the Roman Empire and promote the church. Alongside this they talk about the importance of self-criticism and focus, how the capacity to love and serve others is necessary in order to lead, and how who you are where you are matters.