Dr Koontz and Rev Fisk talk bout the role of violence, its estrangement from modern life, and the historical normalcy of its use by citizens. They discuss how the nation was affected by the events of Jan 6th, the outbreaks of violence across American cities because the political machines are no longer working as intended, and the cannibalistic nature of the regime. They close by examining how inflation will affect standards of living, and the benefits of having a coherent group when trying to "opt out".