Dr Koontz and Col Grills talk about the Wright Brothers development of the airplane, the environment that allowed for that kind of invention, the competing lighter-than-air ships, the uninventive impetus of commercialization, and the history of occultism in further aerospace research.

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Dr Koontz - Trinity Lutheran Church

Pr. Willie Grills - Zion Lutheran Church

Music thanks to Verny