Dr Koontz and Rev Fisk talk about men's clubs and their function in society, overvaluing transparency, and the fragility of ideologies in the face of reality.

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Dr Koontz - Trinity Lutheran Church

Rev Fisk - St Paul Rockford

Music thanks to Verny