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Isaac Dietrich is a deliriously happy man. As CFO of Greenwave, a scrap metal dealer with operations in Virginia, North Carolina, and Ohio, he says Trump’s tariffs on Chinese and potentially other imports mean good times for junkyards. His yards take metal from construction sites, the U.S. government and armed forces, and local municipal trash haulers who provide a steady supply of appliances and used cars.
“Historically, it’s been a demand-side market where the steel mills set the price and set all the terms,” Dietrich said by phone. But all that’s flipped, he said, with Trump’s tariffs: “Last year 80% of our sales were exports; this year is going to be almost 80% domestic at much higher prices. Tariffs are making it so Nucor and all these steel mills in the United States are going to be buying from domestic scrap yards, and that’s us,” said Dietrich.
In fact, many U.S. steelmakers, including giants like Nucor and Cleveland-Cliffs, are buying scrap companies to lock in supplies of steel at affordable prices. Dietrich wouldn’t be drawn, but that could make his firm an attractive target. Prices for scrap, Dietrich said, have risen 20% in 48 hours this week as steelmakers assess the implications of tariffs. While the price Greenwave and other firms pay for the scrap they process and re-sell varies along with market prices, Dietrich says margins will only grow, and recently his firm said publicly that it expects margins to reach 50% from about 40% right now.
“If I’m a scrap dealer, tariffs actually would increase the steel price,” said Janice Lee, a partner at the Boston Consulting Group who specializes in scrap metal markets. “But if scrap prices are lagging, that means the spread that I get between the steel and the scrap price expands, and so therefore it’s great for me.”
The U.S., says Lee, is “blessed” with a vast surplus of scrap metal, and if tariffs continue, that will halt the inflow of scrap from Canada, and retaliatory tariffs could dampen exports to Mexico, boosting the need for domestic scrap. That’s also pushing more of the vertical integration of the steel and scrap industry, which can only feed its electric arc furnaces with scrap (iron ore is used by blast furnaces, but EAFs are far more efficient and cleaner).
“As an EAF operator, that’s your sole source of raw material, so you see an advantage in making sure that you guarantee the flow,” said Lee. “That’s why a lot of players are vertically integrating.”
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Elon’s WorldElon Musk’s lawyers were in a California courtroom telling federal judge Yvonne Gonzalez Rogers that Musk would be “irreparably harmed” if she let Sam Altman’s OpenAI, which Musk helped bankroll, convert to a for-profit company. It’s more likely that Musk’s own xAI would be harmed by OpenAI’s conversion, and the judge called Musk’s contention a “stretch,” but said the trial should still go ahead. • Beyond firing all of the government’s employees, sinking its foreign aid agency, and gaining access to every American’s Social Security information, Musk has another job: making sure Trump’s new Air Force One jets actually get delivered by Boeing. Two renovated 747s were supposed to be delivered in 2022. The planes are now expected in 2027 and 2028 because of Covid, the Boeing strike and design changes, which have all added about $2 billion to the price tag. Musk’s SpaceX competes with Boeing for government launch contracts. “The president wants those planes sooner, so we’re working with Elon to see what we can do to pull up the schedule of those programs,” Boeing CEO Kelly Ortberg said, through gritted teeth. • Trading on Musk’s newfound popularity as First Buddy, a group of Wall Street banks was able to unload $5.5 billion of X debt, after selling about $1 billion of the short-term loans last month. The X debt sold for about 97 cents on the dollar. In 2023, some hedge funds had offered Morgan Stanley just 60 cents on the dollar to take on X debt. This time, buyers were lining up, including hedge funds Citadel, Apollo Global Management, Pimco and Diameter Capital. That comes after investment fund giant Fidelity last September wrote down the value of its equity stake in X by 79%, as X hemorrhaged advertisers and users. But the new interest in X debt is likely linked to two things: 1) the excessively high interest rate, 6% over the floating rate benchmark, which with the discount yields about 12% for the buyers, and 2) as one banker told The Financial Times: “Elon’s cachet. He is an FOP, a friend of the president.”
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The Short StackTake two aspirin and call me when the tariffs expire: Pharmaceutical firms, drug distributors and and healthcare companies are worried that tariffs on countries that produce generic drugs, precursor materials for U.S.-made drugs, and other pharmaceuticals that U.S. patients need, could cripple our healthcare system, causing drug shortages and dramatically raise the cost of care. “Placing tariffs on generic drug products produced outside the U.S. will put additional pressure on an industry that is already experiencing financial distress. Distributors and generic manufacturers cannot absorb the rising costs of broad tariffs,” the Healthcare Distribution Alliance said on Feb. 2.
1, 2, 3, 4, I Declare a Trade WarThe on-again/off-again trade war with America’s commercial partners may be on hold for a month, but the key indicator that seems to be at the root of it all, the U.S. trade deficit widened in 2024 to a record $1.2 trillion. And that, it seems, is what gets under Trump’s skin. “We have deficits with almost every country — not every country, but almost — and we’re going to change it,” he said Sunday. Tariffs, Trump figures, will push up the price of imports so high that U.S. consumers will instead buy American. The problem is that the U.S. doesn’t produce everything it would like to consume, so placing tariffs on one country is playing a game of global trade whack-a-mole. In fact, among the hardest hit companies in the U.S. are carmakers, which take advantage of the free trade zone formerly known as NAFTA. Besides, as long as the government’s fiscal deficits don’t get out of control (taxes and revenue track federal spending), those trade deficits are largely offset by foreigners buying U.S. government and corporate debt. U.S. imports of goods and services grew 6.6 percent to a record $4.1 trillion, as Americans bought large amounts of auto parts, weight-loss drugs, computers and food from other countries.
At the same time, U.S. exports of goods and services to the rest of the world also hit a record last year, at $3.2 trillion.
Maurice Obstfeld, a senior fellow at the Peterson Institute for International Economics and the former chief economist at the International Monetary Fund, told The Wall Street Journal that tariffs would have “an ambiguous effect” on the trade deficit, in part because they would strengthen the U.S. dollar. When the currency appreciates, that makes imports seem cheaper and exports more expensive, pushing up the trade deficit.
By CheddarIsaac Dietrich is a deliriously happy man. As CFO of Greenwave, a scrap metal dealer with operations in Virginia, North Carolina, and Ohio, he says Trump’s tariffs on Chinese and potentially other imports mean good times for junkyards. His yards take metal from construction sites, the U.S. government and armed forces, and local municipal trash haulers who provide a steady supply of appliances and used cars.
“Historically, it’s been a demand-side market where the steel mills set the price and set all the terms,” Dietrich said by phone. But all that’s flipped, he said, with Trump’s tariffs: “Last year 80% of our sales were exports; this year is going to be almost 80% domestic at much higher prices. Tariffs are making it so Nucor and all these steel mills in the United States are going to be buying from domestic scrap yards, and that’s us,” said Dietrich.
In fact, many U.S. steelmakers, including giants like Nucor and Cleveland-Cliffs, are buying scrap companies to lock in supplies of steel at affordable prices. Dietrich wouldn’t be drawn, but that could make his firm an attractive target. Prices for scrap, Dietrich said, have risen 20% in 48 hours this week as steelmakers assess the implications of tariffs. While the price Greenwave and other firms pay for the scrap they process and re-sell varies along with market prices, Dietrich says margins will only grow, and recently his firm said publicly that it expects margins to reach 50% from about 40% right now.
“If I’m a scrap dealer, tariffs actually would increase the steel price,” said Janice Lee, a partner at the Boston Consulting Group who specializes in scrap metal markets. “But if scrap prices are lagging, that means the spread that I get between the steel and the scrap price expands, and so therefore it’s great for me.”
The U.S., says Lee, is “blessed” with a vast surplus of scrap metal, and if tariffs continue, that will halt the inflow of scrap from Canada, and retaliatory tariffs could dampen exports to Mexico, boosting the need for domestic scrap. That’s also pushing more of the vertical integration of the steel and scrap industry, which can only feed its electric arc furnaces with scrap (iron ore is used by blast furnaces, but EAFs are far more efficient and cleaner).
“As an EAF operator, that’s your sole source of raw material, so you see an advantage in making sure that you guarantee the flow,” said Lee. “That’s why a lot of players are vertically integrating.”
Watch Big Business This Week on Cheddar—and YouTube!The Usual SuspectsWhat do you think of Big Business This Week? Tell us how you really feel in this survey!
Elon’s WorldElon Musk’s lawyers were in a California courtroom telling federal judge Yvonne Gonzalez Rogers that Musk would be “irreparably harmed” if she let Sam Altman’s OpenAI, which Musk helped bankroll, convert to a for-profit company. It’s more likely that Musk’s own xAI would be harmed by OpenAI’s conversion, and the judge called Musk’s contention a “stretch,” but said the trial should still go ahead. • Beyond firing all of the government’s employees, sinking its foreign aid agency, and gaining access to every American’s Social Security information, Musk has another job: making sure Trump’s new Air Force One jets actually get delivered by Boeing. Two renovated 747s were supposed to be delivered in 2022. The planes are now expected in 2027 and 2028 because of Covid, the Boeing strike and design changes, which have all added about $2 billion to the price tag. Musk’s SpaceX competes with Boeing for government launch contracts. “The president wants those planes sooner, so we’re working with Elon to see what we can do to pull up the schedule of those programs,” Boeing CEO Kelly Ortberg said, through gritted teeth. • Trading on Musk’s newfound popularity as First Buddy, a group of Wall Street banks was able to unload $5.5 billion of X debt, after selling about $1 billion of the short-term loans last month. The X debt sold for about 97 cents on the dollar. In 2023, some hedge funds had offered Morgan Stanley just 60 cents on the dollar to take on X debt. This time, buyers were lining up, including hedge funds Citadel, Apollo Global Management, Pimco and Diameter Capital. That comes after investment fund giant Fidelity last September wrote down the value of its equity stake in X by 79%, as X hemorrhaged advertisers and users. But the new interest in X debt is likely linked to two things: 1) the excessively high interest rate, 6% over the floating rate benchmark, which with the discount yields about 12% for the buyers, and 2) as one banker told The Financial Times: “Elon’s cachet. He is an FOP, a friend of the president.”
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The Short StackTake two aspirin and call me when the tariffs expire: Pharmaceutical firms, drug distributors and and healthcare companies are worried that tariffs on countries that produce generic drugs, precursor materials for U.S.-made drugs, and other pharmaceuticals that U.S. patients need, could cripple our healthcare system, causing drug shortages and dramatically raise the cost of care. “Placing tariffs on generic drug products produced outside the U.S. will put additional pressure on an industry that is already experiencing financial distress. Distributors and generic manufacturers cannot absorb the rising costs of broad tariffs,” the Healthcare Distribution Alliance said on Feb. 2.
1, 2, 3, 4, I Declare a Trade WarThe on-again/off-again trade war with America’s commercial partners may be on hold for a month, but the key indicator that seems to be at the root of it all, the U.S. trade deficit widened in 2024 to a record $1.2 trillion. And that, it seems, is what gets under Trump’s skin. “We have deficits with almost every country — not every country, but almost — and we’re going to change it,” he said Sunday. Tariffs, Trump figures, will push up the price of imports so high that U.S. consumers will instead buy American. The problem is that the U.S. doesn’t produce everything it would like to consume, so placing tariffs on one country is playing a game of global trade whack-a-mole. In fact, among the hardest hit companies in the U.S. are carmakers, which take advantage of the free trade zone formerly known as NAFTA. Besides, as long as the government’s fiscal deficits don’t get out of control (taxes and revenue track federal spending), those trade deficits are largely offset by foreigners buying U.S. government and corporate debt. U.S. imports of goods and services grew 6.6 percent to a record $4.1 trillion, as Americans bought large amounts of auto parts, weight-loss drugs, computers and food from other countries.
At the same time, U.S. exports of goods and services to the rest of the world also hit a record last year, at $3.2 trillion.
Maurice Obstfeld, a senior fellow at the Peterson Institute for International Economics and the former chief economist at the International Monetary Fund, told The Wall Street Journal that tariffs would have “an ambiguous effect” on the trade deficit, in part because they would strengthen the U.S. dollar. When the currency appreciates, that makes imports seem cheaper and exports more expensive, pushing up the trade deficit.