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At the core of the ongoing government shutdown is a fight over the decision to end subsidies that let some 12 million Americans and legal immigrants get affordable healthcare coverage. To understand why this is so important, BBTW editor Peter Green spoke with long-time health care executive John Driscoll, who is now board chair of the University of Connecticut’s health care system.
Peter Green: One of the main arguments behind the shutdown is over extending government funding of health insurance for American citizens and legal residents. Why does this matter so much?John Driscoll:Right now, over 7 million people will lose their subsidies, and around 5 million will lose their health insurance completely. And the way the reductions work is you’re reducing the higher coverage levels, which typically are the healthier people. At a time when health insurance costs are going to go up, you’re taking the better risks and throwing them off the rolls, which will increase the cost going forward for healthcare in general. In addition to destabilizing the marketplace by taking so many people off the rolls so quickly, you’re also changing the risk profile of the underlying covered lives.
How does that work?What they’re doing is cutting the ACA subsidies for over 400% of the federal poverty level [Currently $32,150 for a family of four]. As you increase the number of people who make more money in the subsidy pool, your risk profile decreases. In addition, with 5 million people losing coverage, what happens is they don’t stop getting care; they just get care when they’re very sick.
How does that raise costs?Those 5 million-ish people will end up accessing care through emergency rooms, getting hospitalized at the highest possible cost level. We know that uninsured people are 40% more likely to die because they don’t have access to primary care or specialists, and only half of them take the drugs that they’re prescribed. It’s a doom loop.
But isn’t Obamacare too expensive?Obamacare was really a public-private compact to extend coverage, but without funding, it’s not like the private sector is going to run in. And the irony here is that two-thirds of those who are the beneficiaries of enhanced subsidies are living in red states.
So how do we keep healthcare costs down? The U.S. spends about $14,000 a year per person, while the European average is about $7,500.We don’t solve high costs in the healthcare system by dumping people off of insurance, particularly when the trade is lower taxes for millionaires and billionaires. Your mortality is much higher if you’re uninsured.
What do you do to bring costs down?Uncovered people are by definition more expensive. And you have to solve the problem of extremely high prescription drug costs, and then invest in chronic care and chronic care support. If you cover everyone and can bring down the cost of prescription drugs, and you start to actually invest in integrated chronic care, you could substantially reduce the cost trend.
Integrated chronic care? How does that work?You give me a budget, but I get to manage all the costs. The only way you reduce the excess costs and the excess trend is if you manage all the costs through one clinical entity that has its patient care at the center. Everybody’s got to get covered and everybody’s got to have access to care they can afford. Otherwise more people are going to suffer. And that shouldn’t be true in the richest country in the world.
This interview has been condensed and edited.
—Peter S. Green
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By At the core of the ongoing government shutdown is a fight over the decision to end subsidies that let some 12 million Americans and legal immigrants get affordable healthcare coverage. To understand why this is so important, BBTW editor Peter Green spoke with long-time health care executive John Driscoll, who is now board chair of the University of Connecticut’s health care system.
Peter Green: One of the main arguments behind the shutdown is over extending government funding of health insurance for American citizens and legal residents. Why does this matter so much?John Driscoll:Right now, over 7 million people will lose their subsidies, and around 5 million will lose their health insurance completely. And the way the reductions work is you’re reducing the higher coverage levels, which typically are the healthier people. At a time when health insurance costs are going to go up, you’re taking the better risks and throwing them off the rolls, which will increase the cost going forward for healthcare in general. In addition to destabilizing the marketplace by taking so many people off the rolls so quickly, you’re also changing the risk profile of the underlying covered lives.
How does that work?What they’re doing is cutting the ACA subsidies for over 400% of the federal poverty level [Currently $32,150 for a family of four]. As you increase the number of people who make more money in the subsidy pool, your risk profile decreases. In addition, with 5 million people losing coverage, what happens is they don’t stop getting care; they just get care when they’re very sick.
How does that raise costs?Those 5 million-ish people will end up accessing care through emergency rooms, getting hospitalized at the highest possible cost level. We know that uninsured people are 40% more likely to die because they don’t have access to primary care or specialists, and only half of them take the drugs that they’re prescribed. It’s a doom loop.
But isn’t Obamacare too expensive?Obamacare was really a public-private compact to extend coverage, but without funding, it’s not like the private sector is going to run in. And the irony here is that two-thirds of those who are the beneficiaries of enhanced subsidies are living in red states.
So how do we keep healthcare costs down? The U.S. spends about $14,000 a year per person, while the European average is about $7,500.We don’t solve high costs in the healthcare system by dumping people off of insurance, particularly when the trade is lower taxes for millionaires and billionaires. Your mortality is much higher if you’re uninsured.
What do you do to bring costs down?Uncovered people are by definition more expensive. And you have to solve the problem of extremely high prescription drug costs, and then invest in chronic care and chronic care support. If you cover everyone and can bring down the cost of prescription drugs, and you start to actually invest in integrated chronic care, you could substantially reduce the cost trend.
Integrated chronic care? How does that work?You give me a budget, but I get to manage all the costs. The only way you reduce the excess costs and the excess trend is if you manage all the costs through one clinical entity that has its patient care at the center. Everybody’s got to get covered and everybody’s got to have access to care they can afford. Otherwise more people are going to suffer. And that shouldn’t be true in the richest country in the world.
This interview has been condensed and edited.
—Peter S. Green
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