The More + Sugar Podcast presents BIG CONVERSATIONS. For my 50th birthday I wanted to have some bold conversations. My nephew Kindel tragically drowned when he was four years old. I wrote about it my book Sugar in My Grits Grief to Gratitude through Grace. His loss affects the way I parent my son. I needed to hear how someone else was able to make it through such a loss, so I sat down with my friend Angel.