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Andrew Marantz has been covering the far-right for about a decade. When Sam was getting ready to leave the movement, someone gave her Andrew's email address, recommended she contact him, and disappeared. Andrew was working on a book about the far-right, Sam needed someone to hear her story. 

In this conversation, Sam, Chuck, and Andrew talk about the state of, well, everything now. Andrew's book, Antisocial, is about the far(ish) right. But, it's also about accountability of tech companies, what might happen if we keep up the guise of a "techno-utopia", and how the future looks bright- only if we work for it.

If being on the far-right is starting to feel wrong, send something our way...
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