In this conversation, Bert and Nick explore various themes surrounding creativity, cryptids, and the supernatural. They discuss the challenges of artistic pursuits, delve into the lore of Bigfoot and Dene tribes, and examine theories about interdimensional beings. The conversation also touches on the impact of movies on public perception of aliens and the recent increase in UFO sightings, culminating in a discussion about M. Night Shyamalans films and their hidden themes. In this engaging conversation, Bert and Nick explore the complexities of belief in the paranormal, the impact of personal experiences, and the skepticism surrounding technology used in investigations. They share personal anecdotes, discuss the ethics of paranormal tourism, and reflect on the intersection of comedy and the supernatural. The dialogue flows seamlessly through various themes, emphasizing the importance of shared experiences and innovative approaches to understanding the unknown.