In this episode, Creative arts curriculum advisor Jackie King and Aboriginal Education Advisor Dominique Higgins are joined by Dr Aunty Jacinta Tobin who is a proud Dharug descendant of mixed heritage. In the Stage 4 unit Bigger than the Song, students will investigate Jacinta’s work with The Preatures on the song Yanada and explore the process of their collaboration. This discussion unpacks Indigenous Cultural Intellectual Property (ICIP) and the importance of following Cultural protocols and seeking permissions when engaging with Aboriginal Language and story.   

Bigger than the song unit will be published on the Department’s Music 7-10 website in 2026.   

Note: Throughout this podcast terms such as First Nations or Indigenous are used. In NSW public schools, 'Aboriginal' or 'Aboriginal and/or Torres Strait Islander' are preferred.