This week on the smart pop culture podcast, Andrew and Matt are joined by music writers Justin Quirk and Sîan Pattenden. Our topics: why are no musicians engaging with the Euro Referendum? Is Grace Jones the best pop star ever? And why do people get angry about who's headlining Glastonbury? All this and much more…

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