Bill Weiss, creator of the Cloud 9 Experience, and I chat about meditation, meditating at 19, 1971, teaching meditation, TM, Cloud 9, group techniques, asking the mind to leave, affordable meditation, stress/burn-out, mainstream meditation, workplace, getting rest, zen, incandescent bulbs, rubberbands, finding Nirvana, the furthest place he's been, travel, 6 months of meditation, senses, limitations, school systems, change, Randy, and where you can find him - 

https://cloud9exp.com