On this episode of Mother Nature Doesn't Give a Crap, Peter Reynolds and environmental activist and professional engineer Geoff Sheffrin talk about COP 15, a UN-facilitated program which had 12,000 in attendance and is focused on protecting the planet's land, ocean, water areas and halving food waste. Jeff points out that COP 15 is more doable than COP 27, but is concerned about the lack of deliverables, timelines and accountability. He suggests solutions on how to strengthen the program, including providing a fund to help developing nations. Geoff also discusses new technology being developed to make nuclear energy safer and more efficient.

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