As Halloween approaches here in the US, find out about cutting edge bat research in Germany. Discover just how bats manage to fly out of caves in the thousands without hitting each other. Also, challenge stereotypical perceptions of bats as scary or creepy.

*We interview Dr. Aya Goldschtein about bat echolocation, the importance of bats, and more

*We interview a couple friends about their feelings about bats.

Fly with us into this exploration of bat biology!🦇

*In thanks to Dr. Goldschtein for the interview, and in support of bat conservation, a bat was adopted at Bat Conservation International's website. Each bat has a biologically accurate and informative stuffed animal. Find out more or adopt your own bat here: https://shop.batcon.org/collections/adopt-a-bat

* Learn about Northeastern cave conservation from this website mentioned during the episode: https://www.necaveconservancy.org/preserves/