In this episode of the Soil Talks™ Podcast, we sit down with Josue Diaz (Betteravia Farms / BoniPak Produce) and Dr. Christopher Height to unpack what actually happens when a large-scale operation transitions from conventional inputs to biological systems, under real-world pressure.

This isn’t a conversation about ideology.
And it’s not “biology vs fertilizer.”

It’s a conversation about constraints.

• Increasing regulatory pressure on nitrogen
• Water scarcity and efficiency
• Input volatility
• Yield protection under stress
• And the reality that soil health decisions now have to pencil out fast

What stood out most in this discussion wasn’t belief.
It was measurement.

When biology is measured, not assumed:

• Active carbon becomes visible
• Nitrogen use efficiency improves
• Water-holding capacity changes
• Input dependency declines
• And resilience shows up sooner than most expect

Betteravia Farms’ experience shows that biology doesn’t replace agronomy
it changes how decisions are made.

This episode is for:
• Farm operators managing scale
• Consultants working inside real constraints
• Ag leaders navigating regulation, water, and margin pressure

If you’re asking:
“How do we keep producing at scale when the rules of the game have changed?”

This conversation is required listening.