In episode 2 we touch base with Birdman Dad again and chat about Success and Failures in birdkeeping from what finches he has bred with great success in mixed aviaries and which ones he found troublesome.  He also suggest some aviary design features that would be on his top 5 tips as well as some he simply can not incorporate into his current set up.  Co-host Kiah delves into the world of "aviary pests" and here we meet old "Rat in the Hat" and they discuss things that need to be kept under control if you are going to be successful in your bird keeping endeavours.