There is a lot to unpack when looking at birth in the middle of a pandemic. Yvonna is joined by her guest, Natalie MacKay, to talk in depth about black women's struggle to feel supported and survive childbirth while adding in the element of birthing in COVID. Natalie describes her experience as a mom, being pregnant, and giving birth in COVID. Despite a beautiful home birth she has anger towards the system and discusses how we can make a change.