Tone Vays and Jimmy Song continue their series of interviews examining the current tensions between Bitcoin Knots and Bitcoin Core.

Because Tone is only releasing this series as streaming video on X and YouTube, "The Bitcoin Game" podcast feed was revived to host this interview series for people who prefer a low-bandwidth audio podcast to consume this long-form content.

This is Part 5 of the series, this time featuring Knut Svanholm. The interview was recorded on November 12, 2025, in a side room at the Bitcoin Historico event in El Salvador.

The beginning of the recording has been edited to remove issues setting up mics, etc.