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Bitcoin Treasuries Aren’t Just Buying Bitcoin — They May Power the Next Payment Network


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What if your Bitcoin could generate yield without giving up custody?


In this episode, we sit down with Dave Lund (CEO of Flowrate) to break down the Lightning Network, one of the most important innovations in Bitcoin today, and how Bitcoin treasury companies can use it to unlock new revenue streams.


If you’ve ever wondered:

- “What is the Lightning Network?”

- “Can you earn yield on Bitcoin safely?”

- “How will Bitcoin scale to billions of users?”


This episode answers it all in simple terms.


What You’ll Learn

- How the Lightning Network actually works (no jargon)

- Why Bitcoin can’t scale on-chain—and how Lightning fixes it

- The concept of pre-funded payment channels explained

- How companies are already earning native Bitcoin yield

- Why Bitcoin treasury companies could become key infrastructure players

- The future of tap-to-pay Bitcoin & instant global payments

- Risks, centralization concerns, and the real opportunity ahead


Follow our guest:

- Dave Lund: https://x.com/davelund_

- Flowrate: https://www.flowrate.com/


00:00 Introduction: Dave Lund (CEO Building on Lightning)

03:30 What Flowrate Does (Lightning Liquidity Explained Simply)

05:00 Why Bitcoin Treasury Companies Should Care About Lightning

07:18 What Is the Lightning Network? (Beginner-Friendly Breakdown)

11:46 Lightning vs Bitcoin: Pre-Funded Channels Explained

15:00 How Treasury Companies Can Earn Yield with Lightning

18:55 The BIG Opportunity: Lightning Growth & Network Effects

24:51 Lightning vs Miners: Does It Hurt Bitcoin Fees?

27:19 Who Controls Lightning? (Exchanges vs Treasury Companies)

33:29 Final Insight: Why Lightning Is a “Massive Unlock” for Bitcoin


Big thanks to Little Bubble for allowing us to use his song: "One Chair": https://open.spotify.com/track/0XW7JgR2Nlg7WXGOeVT64h?si=a344b82984f74f81


DISCLAIMER: This is not is financial advice. This podcast is for educational and entertainment purposes only.


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