In part two of our two-part series featuring recipients of the annual BIV CEO of the Year awards, EMBERS CEO Marcia Nozick (Lifetime Achievement) and Tru Earth CEO Brad Liski (Small Company category) share their insights on their influences, where they find their optimism, how they deal with the challenges of the pandemic, and how they take care of themselves as leaders. The podcast is sponsored by the Fasken law firm.

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