Eugene Chung has been on the investor side of the start-up world at Warburg Pincus and Morgan Stanley before entering the creative world's of Pixar, heading Oculus Story Studios and founding Penrose Studios. 

Eugene knows the spatial computing space really well and through this episode he gives thoughts and comments on the current state of the Metaverse with Apple's release of the Vision One headset. 

Thank you for joining the show, Eugene. Please listen to our show with Magic Leap founder Rony Abovitz from a year ago as addition to this episode.