We sat down with BJ Botha (a Sharks man through and through and a Springbok World Cup winner) and Linda Reddy (a South African leader flying the Nando’s flag globally) to talk about what it really takes to build a life and career across borders.

This conversation is about identity, purpose, and the grit it takes to start again: from moving cities, to moving countries, to rebuilding after rugby, to leading teams from the other side of the world.

Key moments:

00:00:00 Intro: What the away game really means

00:01:10 Springbok memories and the moments that shaped us

00:05:48 Identity, national pride, and carrying the flag abroad

00:09:42 Leaving home: expectations when you land overseas

00:13:30 Life after rugby and losing a playing identity

00:16:43 The Nando’s story that changes every immigration conversation

00:19:55 Comfort vs growth when making big moves

00:24:07 The shock of London winter and self-doubt

00:28:36 Why South Africans always have a plan (A, B, C)

00:32:41 Leading teams remotely across continents

00:36:58 Building connection when you’re not in the room

00:42:31 Running toward purpose, not away from pain

00:47:12 Family stability as the foundation for performance

00:53:41 Kilimanjaro, Machu Picchu, Mount Fuji — using challenge for impact

00:57:58 Giving back, leadership, and legacy

00:59:06 Guests ask each other a questionListen on

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Winning The Away Game is produced by Jonathan Warncke

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