The curator of the Cage Match Project and host for this podcast, Ariel René Jackson, interviews Torkwase Dyson, a painter working across multiple mediums in order to explore the continuity between ecology, infrastructure, and architecture. Dyson's abstract works grapple with the ways in which space is perceived and negotiated, particularly by Black and Brown bodies. In this episode Dyson describes her working term "Black compositional thought" that names the ways that Black bodies mold and shape spaces for self-liberation. We discuss the importance of self-care and revisiting the lived experiences of Black ancestors for inspiration in finding ways to survive and prosper. Episode Art : Untitled (419) 2018 by Torkwase Dyson https://www.pacegallery.com/artists/torkwase-dyson/