Language truly matters in this episode with special guest Dr. Shannon Sullivan, Chair of the Philosophy Department at UNC Charlotte and author of Good White People: The Problem with Middle-Class White Anti-Racism. This discussion covers a range of terms you may find familiar such as white fragility, and also concepts like inter-generational fatigue and Epigenetics. Join Mary-Frances Winters and Dr. Sullivan in taking the conversation deeper in understanding Black Fatigue. Black Fatigue: How Racism Erodes the Mind, Body, and Spirit is now available on Amazon, Bookshop, Indiebound, Berrett-Koehler, and Barnes & Noble. Share your Black Fatigue story or experience using #MyBlackFatigue on any social platform Learn more about The Winters Group and other available resources -  www.wintersgroup.com --- Send in a voice message: https://anchor.fm/TheWintersGroup/message