To start this season, and podcast, we want to address the question: Why should we care about black lives, if black people don’t care about black lives?

Last week, an hour before the Breonna Taylor Verdict was announced, Brandon Chastang sat down with Captain Matthew Gillespie of the 18th District in West Philly. Captain Gillespie addresses the problems of racism and violence within the police force and how he is partnering with the community to come up with real solutions.