<p>Dr. Brown is an African American man with a highly integrated life history. I grew up in all-white Milwaukie, Oregon, a suburb of Portland. This is a conversation between one black man and one white man about the challenges we face today in this nation. Challenges that don't have to divide us, but challenges we do need to talk about.</p>

Dr. Brown is an African American man with a highly integrated life history. I grew up in all-white Milwaukie, Oregon, a suburb of Portland. This is a conversation between one black man and one white man about the challenges we face today in this nation. Challenges that don't have to divide us, but challenges we do need to talk about.

Black Man/White Man, A Conversation

The New Bureaucrat, is a serious – and sometimes not so serious – look at the inside job of transforming government. You will meet and get to know people, people like you, people who are changing how government works. We'll talk about the struggle, the obstacles, the commitment it takes to persist. The New Bureaucrats have one thing in common, they are focused on results. Demonstrable, measurable results. Results that matter. And all of them are successfully applying business concepts, tools, and methods -- to the work government. The host, John M. Bernard, is the author of GOVERNMENT THAT WORKS, THE RESULTS REVOLUTION IN THE STATES.

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Black Man/White Man, A Conversation

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