In this episode Tania and actress/singer/teacher/fellow mom friend Karla Beard Leroy cover topics ranging from their personal and professional experiences with colorism (8:59), black moms having light skinned babies and the challenges in helping biracial kids develop their identities (23:00). What's the way to teach kids about slavery in school? (32:43) What's a great metaphor for racism? (36:50 ) Is marginalization a gift? Tania has a message for parents raising black and brown kids (42:07) and the women talk about how the younger generations' propensity toward inclusion gives them hope for the future (48:25). If you want to listen to two black women living out loud with a dash of book and movie talk to boot this episode is for you. Plus Karla sings!

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